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[arcanetrivia]

*punches LJ in the face*

1. %&*# Facebook Connect. It's not that people couldn't already have reposted comments they made on f-locked posts in your journal by copying and pasting them, but it's a deliberate act that most people, I think, have a kind of "don't break the f-lock" stricture against (at least if they want to remain on your f-list). This little "here's a box to automatically repost all your posts and comments to Facebook and/or Twitter if you want" thing makes it very easy to do so by mistake, and worse, provides a link back to the post that the comment was made in. If that post is f-locked of course X random yobbo from Facebook won't be able to read it, but a clear and obvious connection will have been made between the person whose Wall they clicked from and your journal - a connection which perhaps you wanted to obscure. If they simply had to provide this service, they should have made an option where a person could turn it off on their own journal (that is, those boxes would be disabled when people commented, even if the commenters had the feature turned on). ARGH ETA: I invite you to express your displeasure - vociferously, if necessary.

2. Much more immediately annoying, on this journal anyway and probably for 90% of fandom, is that they've somehow managed to bork tags which have slashes in them - you know, like http://shyfoxling.livejournal.com/tag/severus/sirius. (Well, inconsistently bork, it seems; sometimes the slash is getting replaced with %2F and it breaks, sometimes it isn't getting replaced and it breaks, and sometimes it appears to work normally. But a bunch of people are complaining about it on the news post and I've observed it myself.) ETA: Apparently this was unintentional and is being worked on.

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[enotsola]

I still think showing them what you learned in your cock-punching class is a better idea.

[fera_festiva]

This whole FB/Twitter thing is just so, so stupid. It smacks of "Ooh, let's get on that whole social networking bandwagon", only they clearly haven't given any thought whatsoever to how people actually use LJ. It strikes me as really insensitive and thoughtless, and it makes me enormously cross. >:C

[arcanetrivia]

*nods*

[mimimanderly.livejournal.com]

Part of the reason I like LJ is because it's insular. If I wanted easy accessibility, I would have stayed at DA. The problem with accessibility is that it seems to be the first step toward censorship, as in "Oh, children might be able to read/see this, so we have to protect them!" Bullshit, I say! I want to stay on the island!

[arcanetrivia]

"First step"? Several censorship kerfuffles related to "but we must protect the children!" have already happened on LJ. The latest is why there are "adult content" flags you can tick on your posts or rate your whole journal with (fortunately the ability to flag other people's posts as being violations seems to have fizzled out without causing lots of drama). Many people are still all confused about what porny stuff LJ does and does not allow because of the back and forth on stupid policies.

[lilyevans-snape.livejournal.com]

Explain this to me. So, am I correct in understanding that all comments, even those on friends-locked journals can potentially be cross-posted to either Facebook or Twitter, just by clicking the little icons in the comment box? What about Friends Locked posts themselves? Same thing?

[arcanetrivia]

all comments, even those on friends-locked journals can potentially be cross-posted to either Facebook or Twitter, just by clicking the little icons in the comment box?

Yes. It ignores the security of the post itself. Barring changes since last night, this is LJ's official word on it and has been tested to be the case. Again, not that this couldn't have been accomplished by someone simply copying and pasting their comment on your locked post - but that's generally regarded as being Bad Behavior, whereas this feature seems to legitimize it.

What about Friends Locked posts themselves?

That's something only you could do, at least. See the FAQ for this. It's unclear to me whether "The update to your Facebook Wall will say "[Your Name] posted a new entry to 'shyfoxling' at LiveJournal." This notification will contain the subject and text of the entry you posted, and will link to the entry." means it would contain the full text of the entry even if it was f-locked (which seems stupid - I mean, why make it f-locked if you're just going to make it public on Facebook?) or not, but at least that's under your control.

[lilyevans-snape.livejournal.com]

Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarifications.

Hopefully they will change this, and make it optional. Remember when DeviantArt was forced to do that after pushing out those stupid share links? I really wish that sites would think before doing things like this.

[arcanetrivia]

I like the share links on dA - they make it easy for me to create a post to show someone something I've found on dA without having to do it manually. Everything on dA is, or was until they introduced "only logged in dA users can see this", fully public anyway - there's no concept of "only certain people I designate can see this deviation", so conceptually it is not different than my posting "hey, look at this blog post" or "hey, look at this piece of artwork" that I found anywhere else on the internet. That said, I do believe the artist should be able to have some control over whether and where their work is reposted and the ability to turn off those links if desired should have been rolled out at the same time.

This, though - this is compromising user-set security. I imagine they are viewing the comment as belonging to the comment poster and not the journal owner, thus the commenter can do anything they like with "their content". Strictly this is probably true, but there are other contextual factors here they seem to have totally ignored.

[akatnamedeaster.livejournal.com]

Ugh, I really don't want anything I post on LJ posted to my FB wall. As much as I want to start using my LJ for art posting if this process is as annoying as it sounds like it might be I think I'm going to stick with IJ as I have been doing.

[rattlesnakeroot.livejournal.com]

I just got here and noticed the Facebook link on a comment I was writing on my LJ, and my question is: why would anyone want to post random out-of-context comments on Facebook? Even beyond linking to friends-locked journals, it strikes me as the most random nonsense in the world.

*scratches head*

[arcanetrivia]

I know, right? A lot of people have said the same in the news post.

[valkyriur.livejournal.com]

My LJ is separate from all my other online personas for a reason. This crap is ridiculous and idiotic.

[arcanetrivia]

Yup. Last night they were up to about 1450 comments on the post - some were "OMG KITTEH" but 95% of the others were expressing various levels of dissatisfaction with this "feature". I see they're up to 3250 now. Wonder if they'll listen. (Or if they'll assume "well X million other users aren't complaining!")